Its probably not realistic though. Nothing elsehappened in that square that really advanced his plans much. You seem to want to shut down theories that are too complex for you to understand. The mists curled around him, blending into the tassels of his mistcloak. Marasi previously studied law and had a bit of a crush on Wax, but shes since moved on. Powers that we know of: Steelpushing (Allomantic) and Bloodmaking (Feruchemical). They called you their god, and you were casual with their faith! He does this in order to fight the Lord Ruler's oppression of all the skaa, wanting to have one thing which cannot be taken away from him. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. B. from what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. Once he is freed from the Well along with Ruin, he initially travels around through the Cognitive version of Luthadel, seeking out his friends. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. Most of the information in this article has been culled from The Coppermind, the definitive Sanderson knowledge base on the internet. Yet, his death isn't truly that sad to me. Breeze would recruit men for the rebellion, Ham would train them in the Arguois caverns, Dockson would direct the operation's finances, Clubs would hide the group's Allomancy with copperclouds, OreSeur in the role of Lord Renoux would buy the necessary equipment, Marsh would infiltrate the Steel Ministry posing as an obligator, Kelsier would use his Mistborn power to make attacks on the nobility to create tension between the houses, and Vin would gather information in the noble court posing as Renoux's niece Valette. TLRwas gonna kill Kelsier anyways. The Lord Ruler was just too powerful and him trying to run would've destroyed any of the rebellion he was trying to build. Even with the Eleventh Metal, Kelsier proved no match for the emperor and was quickly killed by a spear through the heart. What are you trying to say you think happened? Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? Whats the point? With the spike removed, Kelsier encouraged her to take up the power, relinquishing it so that she can do so. Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. [46], During his journey to find the Ire, he runs into Ruin and has a discussion about Ruin's intent. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. Please note that there are also some spoilers in here for The Stormlight Archive. In fact, Im far more than just a mild annoyance. Marsh resents Kelsier because Kelsier had success with the skaa rebellion soon after Marsh quit being its leader. Mistborn was the first Brandon Sanderson book I read, and Kelsier's death shocked me. I dont think the head matters. What about this mysterious Trell? Kelsier would beat Kaladin in a straight fight as he is prone to using dirty tactics. (Otherwise, Inquisitors would be very very dead). He tries to teach Vin to smile and occasionally look on the bright side of things. [68] After Marasi solved the riddle of the Bands and wielded it to escape the Set, she gave it to Wax, who wielded it and became incredibly powerful. VenDell: A kandra who often delivers messages on behalf of Harmony. See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. He introduced them and Vin to Yeden and explained his plan to destroy the Final Empire and kill the Lord Ruler. Be. Will we learn more about him in The Lost Metal? Kelsier authorizes the engagement of all agents in Elendel to help in any way possible, and has Twinsoul and Moonlight accompany Marasi to Autonomy's army from marching into Scadrial. [79], This page or section contains spoilersfor, This page or section needs to be updated with new informationfor, Kelsier to the Lord Ruler, last words before death, This article is still missing information. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. He hid the artifact away somewhere in the north and then disappeared. Having escaped death only by becoming a Mistborn . Later, Kelsier invited a team of the best thieves in the city to a gathering in Camon's safe house. What are you actually theorizing. They have been utilizing Hemalurgy to grant their members Allomantic and Feruchemical powers. Id make a world where owers returned, a world with green plants, a world where no soot fell from the sky. Kelsier was central to it all. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. [43][77] Merely interacting with Hoid for a brief amount of time was enough to send Kelsier into a murderous rage. After removing her second spike and adding one of Trellium, she went mad and began working with the Set, and was defeated. Paalm has been working with the Set to attempt to break free from Harmonys influence. . I decided that Id see [Mare's] dream fullled. Mistborn Era 2 takes place 341 years after the events in the original trilogy, but theres another little story that we hope youve also read that takes place between themMistborn: Secret History. [2] Kelsier later reveals in his letter to Vin that he had intended to use the Eleventh Metal to destroy the Lord Ruler but could not discover how to use it in his fight. To view an earlier version of the wiki without spoilers for a book, go to the Time Machine! And the book clearly had the rebels shove 2 spears right through his body. [16] He gifted Vin a mistcloak and started to teach her Allomancy. Even with the strongest criminal team ever put together, Kel's scheme appears to be the absolute long shot. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. [70], Soon afterwards, Wax accessed a coppermind contained in a coin-like Southern Scadrian medallion that Hoid had given him and saw a vision of what appeared to be Kelsier's memory of discovering the Southern Scadrians hundreds of years prior. It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. The Lord Ruler has been vanquished. "[3] He is referred to by Hoid as "the Lord of Scars. The skaa react to Kelsier's death by rising up and overthrowing the city with the help of Kelsier's army. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. The reason he would fit well as an Edgedancer is mainly because of what he picked up from Mare regarding restoring the world to the time of flowers and greenery. I dont mean to sound aggravated or anything. Ettmetal, also known as harmonium, is the condensed elemental form of Harmonys power. [66] This book proved vital in solving the case of Bleeder. Kelsier, sentenced to die mining the Pits of Hathsin after attempting to rob the Lord Ruler's palace, arose as a powerful Mistborn and inspired the revolution that shook the foundations of the Final Empire. His other role involved using his reputation as the Survivor of Hathsin to inspire the newly-trained skaa soldiers. It is there revealed that it was Kelsier's ghost who stabbed Elend at the end of Well of Ascension, not Preservation. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. Vin also became a major religious figure in the wake of his death, as the Survivorists consider her Kelsier's heir. But lets start off with the basics, shall we? [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. TLR is like the sacrifices, while Kelsier is like the Inquisitor. He was dead anyways. It was Mare who gave Kelsier a drawing of a flower, a remnant of a time before ash clouded the sky and plants grew withered and brown. It is a dystopian fantasy world in which magic users gain powers by swallowing. He lacks finesse in the external mental abilities of zinc and brass as he tends to create large changes in emotional states as opposed to the more subtle Soothing abilities of Breeze, although he can affect a relatively large mass of people. They also have some sort of ties to. Now with over 10 million copies sold, The Mistborn Series has the thrills of a heist story, the twistiness of political intrigue, and the epic scale of a landmark fantasy saga. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. On its relevancy, just because it has spawned a discussion does not make it relevant to the present and futureCosmere. Steris and Marasi are both members of this religion, though Marasi admits that it is more because she was raised in it. A mystery, to be sure. If were talking about Kelsier getting spiked though, I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. All I want is for somebody to clarify what your theory actually is. [51], From the Well of Ascension, of course. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. Protecting you.Giving you power!, When Leras died and Ruin began to Splinter the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier used the Ire's orb to Connect with Preservation and Ascend, allowing him to protect the power and hold it until Vin could take it. Brandon definitely knew Kelsier wasn't gone from the beginning. And, if you can, dont get all rage monster with ma boy Ishar. Marsh decided to give Wax a book explaining Hemalurgy because he believed Wax was doing Kelsier's work. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? [21] There is a darkness to him that other heroes, such as Kaladin, would fight but that Kelsier instead embraces and is so ruthless that, in a fight with other notable people from the cosmere, he would be the most likely to win;[27][28] even Hoid considers him incredibly dangerous. This page was last edited on 27 January 2023, at 22:51. Throughout the course of the series, weve been following the underhanded machinations of a group called the Set. In Alloy of Law, we learned that the Set (through Mister Suit, Waxs uncle) was responsible for funding the Vanishers, a group who was kidnapping female descendants of the Lord Mistborn (aka Spook). We dont really know if the rebels that stabbed TLR used enough force to get the head of the spear all the way through his body so the metal head of the spear wouldnt be touching him. Kelsier also convinces Breeze, Ham and Clubs to join the conspiracy by offering a share of the Lord Ruler's stash of valuable atium as loot. The liquid in the pool you burned. Kelsier protested, earning himself a violent beating, whereupon he Snapped. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. Despite having amassed enough wealth to live comfortably, Kelsier continued planning more heists, looking for bigger challenges in each. Kelsier knocked out Camon with Steelpushes and gave control over the crew to Milev. That would have advanced his plans quite nicely. It was Kelsier's "death" that truly connected me to the Cosmere universe. I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. Of course, it was nothing compared to The Hero of the Ages. 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